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Did Kelly deserve the win at Trestles?

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4:14 pm
September 15, 2008


haole rot

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The TW Surf ed's have a little video up with their debate about the Boost final debacle with Kelly versus Taj, but i reckon it could get down and dirty back here in the forums.


Was Kelly overscored on that last wave (a 9.27)? Was Taj overscored on his 9.7? Wouldn't it have been more fun to see Kelly get upset by Taj, and potentially keep him from winning the title until later in the year?


Here's my take: Taj got bigger waves, and got more hits and manuevers on them. Kelly's waves were smaller, but he took bigger chances on them, did more explosive tail blow outs, and just attacked with more agression, and variety. Lowers has always been known as the most high-performance stop on tour, and they take that into account with the judging. Kelly is well aware of this, and put it on the line, and it worked. The beef i have is, can you really get a 9.27 on a non set wave (like Kelly did)? I don't think so.

5:16 pm
September 15, 2008


Justin Cote

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Of course he deserved it! To beat the champ, you gotta knock that motherf—ker out, not do safety turns and expect the judges to do the rest! Get real haole.

6:15 pm
September 15, 2008


haole rot

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Oh yeah J Cote? The highlight reel begs to differ.


Kelly's last wave was no 9.27. Christmas came early for Slater this year.


9:23 pm
September 15, 2008


bipsurfer56

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The only real argument is whether or not you can post an 18+ heat score without getting two set waves.  I guess you can.  If you're Kelly.


The only reason why we're even talking about this is because it was the final (I'm sure we could talk about other questionable calls within the whole contest), and because Kelly's on the biggest roll in competitive surfing history.  Everybody's got a little part of them that wants to see the champ get taken out.  The whole thing makes for a good old controversial blah war.


I wanna hear more about the whole 40 min. final instead of 35 min. thing.  Who the hell agrees to giving Kelly even more time to find a 10????

11:36 am
September 16, 2008


dirtyjerz

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Taj got robbed. How do you post two 9s, on set waves, in a heat and lose?

11:47 am
September 16, 2008


caseykoteen

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Shortly before the final was due to go out Kelly convinced contest director Mike Parson to extend it by five minutes because of the inconsistency, and from what i understand Taj agreed.


Yeah, there were other questionable calls, no doubt. I will say though, that the judges do a great job, scoring 99% of waves with incredible accuracy in real time. (I know they have instant replay available, but i don't think they use it that much).


I do think they overscored Kelly's last wave, here's why: It wasn't a set wave and he got off two reasonably big manuvers on the outside, but nothing spectacular after that and he got a 9.27. So, what? Well, now imagine if he'd somehow paddled right back out, snagged a big set wave and did a huge air reverse, smashed five more tail blasts down the beach, and finished it off with a monster end gouge. By the previous wave's scoring precedent, they'd have to give him a 12. They didn't leave enough room for a bigger, more radical wave score.


I like the idea of the judges giving bigger scores based on guys taking chances and doing more high-risk manuvers like big tail blow outs and airs, it makes it more exciting, and it'll keep guys like Dane, Jordy, and Josh Kerr (who's looking like he's gonna re-qualify for the 2009 WCT, by the way) more amped on doing the tour, which is a good thing.


As for Slater's last wave though, with the exception of the 360, he surfed that wave as perfectly as humanly possible (no check turns, no hesitation, full control on a couple of radical manuvers), but i reckon the only way a non-set wave should get in that scoring range is if he did a rodeo or something super crazy on it.

5:41 pm
September 16, 2008


caseykoteen

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Seems pretty Taj heavy in here.

3:38 pm
September 17, 2008


dirtyjerz

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that's because he won

12:26 pm
September 18, 2008


haole rot

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Hey, if they're giving 9's for waves that end in half a foot mush where the guy does a throwaway switchstance floater, then cool. Might want to alert the rest of the Top 44 though, they seem to be under the impression that getting set waves and finishing them with air reverses is the way to go still.


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